Sun 9 Dec 2007
It’s been a week since the last What Do You Want To See post, and I’d like to talk about (a) what’s new/changed, and (b) what else could happen.
1. Profile pages! If someone comments while logged in, clicking on their name in the byline of that comment will now take you to their profile page, rather than their listed URL (which is displayed on the profile page instead). Here’s mine.
It needs some linking-up that’ll I’ll do in the next few days; right now, the only way to get there is to click on a comment byline or go to http://bigbigquestion.com/author/username/ or http://bigbigquestion.com/?author=userid which (just redirects to the username version).
The fields listed on the page are based on what you’ve filled out in the Wordpress Profile form, which you can access from this link if you’re logged in.
Having said all that: what else would you like to see, or what would you like to see different, etc, on the profile pages?
2. Fave/vote experiments! I’ve been playing with a couple different voting widgets, in hopes of finding a good fit for post-voting and favorite/bookmarking functionality. As of right now, every comment has a little AJAXy green thumbs-up button on it; click on it and you should see the button go grey and the count go up.
There’s also a per-post voting widget; in fact, here it is now:
It should work similarly. This latter widget is more useful under the hood than the comment-voting widget — it tracks activity by username rather than IP — but I’m likely to cannibalize one or both and just build a unified version from scratch to handle our voting/faving/bookmarking needs; following on that, I’d hope to include clickable records on user profiles pages and have lists of Good Stuff.
Per-post voting would also be very useful for…
3. User Questions! I’ve set up a two things, both of which are still in progress:
- Post a New Question page
- See All Questions page
If you’re logged in, you should be able to post a new question just by filling out the title and content fields and hitting post. There’s even a preview button. Hot.
The all-questions page lists every question posted, in chronological order, with the question title, user, categories, and number of comments. However, a question will not appear on the front page of Big Big Question without some magical admin approval; how to manage that process elegantly in the future is an open question, but that’s one of the places where the voting/favorite system could be fun and handy.
A couple of big notes on this:
- There is currently no mechanism to limit posts. I’ll put one in place at some point soon, but for now I’ll simply ask that you show some restraint and not go postin’ crazy.
- Pretty much all of this is duct-tape patchwork; if you find something broken, please let me know so we can get it fixed instead of bringing the dang site down.
4. TODO/Open Questions?
There’s a bunch of things — some mentioned explicitly above — that need/want doing. If you have any specific requests or suggestions or brainstorms or dire predictions, bring ‘em on.
On big thing: the all-questions page needs it’s own name, I think. It’s the open-conversation, askme-ish counterpart to the One A Day experience of the front page of BBQ. My favorite suggestion so far: “The Kitchen”, evoking that universal point of congregation at any house party.
So! Have at it! Try not to break anything.
Posted by Josh Millard
(10 votes)
A reminding-myself detail: thread views of posts should really include author byline in the post info.
Putting the BBQ in the kitchen is just asking for carbon monoxide poisoning.
Just sayin’.
I was just thinking The Backyard, myself.
Very cool so far, thanks!
Are there going to be any guidelines for posting questions or open-ended right now?
Are there going to be any guidelines for posting questions or open-ended right now?
For the moment, open-ended; I hope people will kind of continue to stake out and explore the stuff within the spirit of the Big Question, What If ethos that I’ve seen in the submissions so far (which is what most of the front page has consisted of, at this point), but it’s so early that I imagine we’ll get a sense of what does and doesn’t work from direct experience.
So guidelines to come, but for now just ask what you feel like asking.
I’d really like to see the question queue so we can vote up/down suggested questions. In part, it would help set a standard for BBQ-worthy questions (”WTF? My question on what to name my mixtape hasn’t gotten any votes?”) and also keep me from resuggesting questions. Maybe a personal queue for the last part, if you aren’t inclined to build a site-wide one?
Also, this seems like a nice place to point out that the voting tool on comments works sporadically. I tried to vote on MMD’s suggestion of “The Backyard” and received the magic-eight-ball-esque reply, “Error: try again later.” I did as it asked, tried again later, and received the quite humorous and still somewhat magic-eight-ball-esque reply, “Karma not changed. Please try again later.” My karma needs fixing, dammit!
I’d really like to see the question queue so we can vote up/down suggested questions.
Yeah, that’s kind of what I’m hoping to do with the Kitchen (or Backyard or whatever I end up calling it). Let folks post their own questions (go on! Try it!) and polish the list-view and voting mechanism enough to make it easy to pick out the best ones.
Part of that will be getting some visibility for that queue onto the front page, something I may try to figure out today.
Rather than Kitchen or Backyard, I think I should be called the Pit.
Actually, I think *it* should be called the pit.
And also that I should start previewing.
So, I’m a little bit confused. You’re creating the Kitchen/Backyard/Pit/Drip Pan/Igniter or whatever we’re going to call it, where we can post our own questions. Then, said questions can be voted on, with the best ones being selected for the front page? Wouldn’t we have beaten that question to death already?
What I am not getting?
Anonymous posters currently lack the option to follow up their original posts. Assigning a value to their profiles that they can comment in the approved anonymous thread as the anonymous op would make it easier to follow up for them and most likely take some work of the admins hands. (I see jessamyn relate anonymous’ follow up posts all the time.)
Then, said questions can be voted on, with the best ones being selected for the front page? Wouldn’t we have beaten that question to death already?
It’s possible; I’m kind of curious to see how things will proceed once I’ve got everything in place and there’s (hopefully) a little more daily traffic and participation. And I’m hoping the user-questions area will be a fun draw for exactly that increased activity.
My take on the front page is that it should be kind of a one-stop, Main Event type thing for folks who are less inclined to go looking through all the questions stewing in the open area; if someone comes to the site and never really looks around, they can still have a good, fun read checking out the day’s featured question.
Whether the pull-from-the-back model will really click in the long-run, I don’t know. But I can imagine two or five or ten questions getting posted a day by users, and some healthy regular-readers-and-commenters traffic on those, but the one thrown up on the front page kind of getting the deluxe, higher-traffic treatment.
Anonymous posters currently lack the option to follow up their original posts.
krautland, are you talking about Big Big Question or about AskMe? I’m really just talking about this site.
Hey, I thought I’d ask for the ability to change our passwords now, so that we can get it by 2015. Start the clock!
From a user standpoint, I definitely see more value in separating the front page Big Big questions from the user-posted questions. Right now they are all in the same archival directory.
Something that annoys me is seeing recent comments without reference. If I were new user coming here, I’d want to see the topic in question above the most recent comment.
The future value of point number one is only members could post questions and number two only members could propose questions that would make it to the front page.
Anyone can read, anyone can answer (with moderation if it gets too nasty or snarky) but only “members” can post in the user forum and only “great” questions from members make the front page.
Thus having a Front Page and then a separate Kitchen (whatever) linkable from the home page.
You can keep the model of anonymous user posted questions as in AskMe but then you are losing membership. I say if someone wants to ask, they should sign up. Then if you ever want to turn this into a business model, you have a bigger user base.
Just my two cents.